Photography: Still Not a Crime. Yet.

Seattle Center International Fountain

Seattle Center International Fountain

This is the most bizarre story I have seen in some time:

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-investigating-man-photographing-girls-at-2138229.php

Basically, a father allowed his daughter to change in public at the Seattle Center International Fountain, spotted someone taking a picture, demanded to see that photographer’s camera, then called the police when the photographer did not acquiesce to his demands.

After arriving, the police said “they definitely wished they could have been there earlier”, to which Rex replied, “to do what?”.

You cannot forcibly detain someone merely for the act of taking a photograph. At least not legally. The man could have walked away from the police as easily as he walked away from the father. The cops may have shot him in the back for “obstruction of an officer” or another made up charge, but legally, the photographer violated absolutely no laws whatsoever.

“You can take photos in public,” (police officer) Whitcomb said. “But is someone using a telescopic lens? Are they just focusing on children? That’s something we would take an interest in.”

The last line was even creepier than molestation, because an agent of the state openly admitted that he would detain a citizen for committing a non-crime. Welcome to the police state, folks, where everything is illegal until it’s deemed otherwise.

Here we go, one more time for the slow crowd:

Telescopic lenses and photographing children are legal. Photographing almost anything is legal, especially in public, or in places of public accommodation (shopping malls, casinos, etc).

Yes, I know that fascism has arrived, but at this moment, photography is still not a crime. Police cannot force you to delete pictures or reveal the contents of your camera. At least not yet. A new “terror” law will correct this in the near future, I’m sure.

Until then, pictures taken on both public and private property (that’s right, private property as well) are protected unless a warrant is produced. You are fair photographic game in public and you cannot order someone to stop taking pictures, force someone to show you the pictures he/she has taken, and if you attempt to detain that person, that person can use whatever force necessary to effectuate his/her freedom. If you touch someone that photographs you, even if you don’t like it, you are guilty of assault. Just ask Sean Penn.

The PI (the folks that crash your mobile browsers with ads and physically assault your ear drums) is treading on thin legal ice by putting the guy’s picture in the paper and inferring that he may be a child molester. That’s one hell of a defamation suit waiting to happen.

I don’t know if the photographer was a scumbag or not, but that is really not relevant to the PI article. Scumbags are allowed to take pictures, and if you don’t want people looking at your kids, for Christ’s sake, don’t let them change outdoors. When you get naked in Seattle Center, you’re not just entertaining the cattle anymore.

I sure hope the Capitol Hill Blog picks up this story, because I want to be the first person in the comment section to tell these people to go back to the suburbs.

5 comments

  1. Pipeguy /

    Scary shit…calling it fascism is not exaggerated. But don’t worry, at least you’re not alone. Similar things happen here in Canada.
    I witnessed a brutal collision yesterday as i was waiting for a traffic light to turn green. i jumped out the car and saw the driver in very bad shape, the car destroyed. before police arrived i took some pics with my phone. they asked if some1 had seen what happened. i did. they asked if i took pics and said yes and they demanded to see them. i refused and the officer went batshit on me. demanded to see my drivers licence and i refuse asking how and what law i violated. he was yelling 2 inches from my face and i said the only way i would show my licence or pics is with a court order. thankfully a ‘peace officer’ arrived on the scene and we were separated. I gave him my licence and i was told i might get called ‘by the court to clarify what happened’… i said sure..
    For a moment i felt like a Berlin jew in the third reich dealing with the S.S…
    So Rex, this is our world. And i fear it will only get worse. When are you running for President so i can join your campaign?

  2. blueboar /

    I’m looking at the photo with this story. And I think I’d worry more about somebody who’s wearing a freakin raccoon on their head than somebody who was using a camera.

    I mean, wearing a raccoon on your head may be normal shit for someplace like Franklin, TN; but you just don’t see it too often in a major city. Maybe Seattle is more diverse than I thought. :)

  3. rat cheer /

    I can relate, sadly. I once knew a painter who loved to paint figurative work, and did some splendid and innocent paintings of children once in a while. So, one day at the hot springs she took a few snaps around with her camera and was soon confronted by an angry mother who was accusing my artist friend of being a pervert and a child molester. Security was called and she was asked to leave, which she had to comply with since the hot springs in this case was private property. The incident deeply embarrassed her and troubled her up until the day she died. Too bad she didn’t sue the bitch and the hot springs for defamation before she passed away. I know people get ruffled easily around their kids but to accuse them in public of being a child molester and have them kicked out of a pool is going way too far.